Articles | Volume 22, issue 1
https://doi.org/10.5194/os-22-427-2026
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Revisited heat budget and probability distributions of turbulent heat fluxes in the Mediterranean Sea
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-2867', Anonymous Referee #1, 08 Aug 2025
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-2867', Anonymous Referee #2, 04 Sep 2025
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EC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-2867', Yonggang Liu, 18 Sep 2025
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Summary : The manuscript investigates several aspects of heat flux dynamics in the Mediterranean Sea. First the manuscript compares the long-term mean heat flux from two reanalysis products with different spatial resolutions (ERA5 and ECMWF) and the higher resolution reanalysis (ECMWF) is found to provide a heat flux consistent with the ‘closure hypothesis’. The authors attributed this difference to spatial resolution. Then the authors looks at the PDF of the turbulent heat fluxes and also look at the impact of extreme events on the heat budget. The authors find reasonable PDFs that capture the statistical patterns in the heat fluxes terms and that fall/winter cooling events are criteria to achieving the negative long-term mean of ECMWF that is consistent with the ‘closure’ hypothesis.
The work is interesting and will likely be of interest to a broad range of scientists. Couple of questions that I think should be address in some fashion.
Major comments
Seems like there's an issue with using the closure hypothesis as evidence for which result is 'correct' . Finding data/results that fit the expectation assumes the hypothesis is truth which seems a bit problematic to me. It seems like the authors should be framing the results differently
It's not clear that the spatial difference in the reanalysis products is the only potential cause of the difference. Could there be other possible causes? For example, could the cloud physics be the issue. Looking at Figure 1, the long wave and short wave radiation are the terms that look most different. Since SST is the same in both cases, the differences in long wave radiation could point to the cloud cover parameters, maybe? Is cloud representation done the same way in these two reanalysis products. It is not clear to me the only difference in this reanalysis products is the spatial resolution. Maybe I missed that though.
Why are the statistical distributions just the turbulent heat fluxes explored. Its fine, but it seems like the author should comment on why these are the target and why the distributions of the longwave and shortwave radiation are not explored.
With regard to the extreme events. I guess it should not be surprising that if you remove the most extreme negative values and then average the heat flux the mean will get warmer. However, potential feedbacks may not be accounted for that should be mentioned. For example, if the extreme heat flux events are removed but there impacts on SST is not, then the subsequent fluxes may be lower than should be if the extreme event in the heat flux never occurred. So the relative gain associated with the extreme event may not be as significant indicated by just removing the extreme heat flux. There maybe other potential feedbacks that the removal methodology does not full consider that should be mentioned.
Can more details or discussion be provided on why spatial resolution limits the ability of ERA5 to represent extreme heat loss in fall and winter?
Similarly related – Figure 7 shows the Qnet, but what is driving the extreme Qnet – typically I assume latent heat flux (and reduced shortwave) is the main driver of fall/winter cooling events but Figure 1 suggests that these are quite similar between ERA5 and ECMWF at least in terms of the mean… Is that the case in the extreme events?
Minor comments
Line 50-51 Awkward phasing
Line 83 ‘have shown large deviation’ - revise phrasing
Line 162 Was ρ (rho) defined?
Line 400 ‘ that this is the reason why…’
Line 404-405 I don’t really understand this sentence.
Line 453 ‘Differences appear…’ The main difference were in the long and short wave radiation. Figure 1 showed that latent and sensible heat fluxes were not that different.
Line 485-487 These sentence are confusing to me. I suggest revising them in some way.
Line 493 poor phrasing – this sentence should be revised.