Articles | Volume 22, issue 5
https://doi.org/10.5194/os-22-2779-2026
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Enhanced water mass mixing in Fram Strait in 2020 and elevated circulation timescales of Atlantic-derived waters in 2021 based on transient tracers I-129 and U-236
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This paper adds the information (from 129I and 236U) for two Fram Strait sections in 2020 and 2021 to earlier (2016) radionuclide data, in order to better understand changes in mixing and Arctic circulation time scales (for the Atlantic water component). It also compares results from binary and TDD model approaches to interpret the results (including in the surface layer). The difference found between the 2020 and 2021 results is potentially interesting, fitting with the expectation that a positive polar index would trigger more confined Beaufort circulation (this more toward cyclonic regime, and thus more transpolar drift in 2021) (and, of course, with a little lag).
There were three other papers by Wefing et al. on Fram radionuclide sections (at least the Wefing et al 2019 and 2022 are with binary model, and not the TDD one (and the 2021 paper only subsurface); So, the originality of this paper would be the use of TDD on the different sections… (but I have not read the 2025 Wefing et al paper: is it on line, as no journal mentioned; on the other hand probably not so relevant here, as dealing with central Arctic?). The other originality is the one of extending the model to the surface data, but that is based on some assumptions to take into account salinity variations and propotion of Pacific water (TTD model already used by Wefing et al (2021), but not for the surface; here there is a salinity normalization and some assumptions on the proportion of Pacific water for the fallout component in 236U).
After consulting these earlier papers, I was surprised that the 129I and 236U 2018 and 2019 Fram Strait data from Wefing et al (2022) are not really mentioned / included here, at least in the discussion. Is it because there were not enough stations in 2018-2019 (mostly EGC and not very far on the shelf? (or that many stations do not have the pair of measurements) or is there is some doubts related to the 2018 and 2019 238U measurements? Altogether, why are they not included. After all: 2016, 2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021 would (apparently) make for a more consistent time series than having the gap between 2016 and 2020, and help to better figure out whether the conclusions derived by comparing 2020 and 2021, also hold for the earlier years.
The use of a source function (NCC and other branches; Figure 1b) is key for the analysis. It is based on some reasonable assumptions as discussed in Casacuberta et al (2018) and Wefing et al (2021). However, should the error bars that are plotted here (Figure 1b) be reevaluated (maybe to phrase it differently: how much confidence does one have in these error bars?)
Furthermore, 2020 and 2021 sampling separated by almost a month seasonally (later in 2020, thus with likely more vertical mixing/vertical diffusion of the surface signal (and more melt of sea ice): could this explain the absence of the shallow subsurface peak in that year, compared to 2021 (and maybe also some of the near-surface differences between the two years).
It is very helpful to have these sections in two successive years. It would have been better if there had been more 2021 (and 2020) data collected in the SCC Atlantic water inflow west of Svalbard, to ascertain that there are only little differences in these water masses between the two years, as expected (otherwise, I wonder how one can fully eliminate that the difference beween the two sections do not result from data/measurement errors in one of the two sections).
Comments:
Section 3.4: seems that the scatter is really large in the different TDD parameters (for example in 3.4.1 Mid-depth Arctic Atlantic water). Greenland slope, indeed seems more homogeneous / consistent (and overall larger gammas…)
Figure 1 is fine for focus on Fram Strait. I would still place other arrows across Canadian archipelagos for completeness.
Figure 8: I find that the slope is rather different from 1 (even negative in 2020 between tracer age and gamma (but of course, as commented, these are for larger delta, and I understand the argument on the influence of delta, and the possibility of misinterpreting the binary model results). But I am still puzzled with this huge scatter in gamma (and such large gammas in this surface Polar water I). First, I found that a bit counter-intuitive (but long (and varying) storage in Beaufort gyre could explain it? Probably OK with the later discussion)
Other minor comments:
Figure 1: green and purple not that well differentiated on left figure. Then, there are black arrows on both panels. No mention on what this refers to (surface + subsurface, maybe). There is also a dashed arrow along Greenland (based on where this is located, has to be surface; probably the dashes refer to intermittent coastal flow)
Figure 2: I have not read Wefing et al (2021) where it is certainly discussed. I was wondering (personal interest; not for the paper)why in the surface layer is the peak before 1990 in 236U so sharp and prominent and preceding by a few years the 129I signal (from La Hague-Sellafield).
Figure 5: I would add 2020 between top and bottom of panels b, and 2021 between top and bottom of panel d
Figure A1: I assume that the bars represent +-1 estimated rms errors.
Figure A2: one needs to again indicate in the caption what is the symbol for each year.
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