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https://doi.org/10.5194/os-22-119-2026
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Hidden vortices: near-equatorial low-oxygen extremes driven by high-baroclinic-mode vortices
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The authors describe a vertically and horizontally spatially constrained low dissolved oxygen (DO) event observed in the near-equatorial North Atlantic using moored and repeated ship-based observations, and investigate its origin using output from a high-resolution coupled climate model with a simplified Biogeochemical component. The manuscript provides a detailed description of the observational data and analysis methods employed. I find the observational documentation of the phenomenon the authors refer to as HBV to be of sufficient scientific value to merit publication.
One major concern is that the authors argue that the long lifespan is one of the key characteristics of the observed HBVs, yet this conclusion appears to rely solely on the model output. As evidenced in the comparison between the model and observations presented in the manuscript, there may be non-negligible biases in the spatiotemporal variability of DO anomalies (see also my later comments). It should also be noted that general ocean circulation models tend to exhibit reduced dissipation of mesoscale/submesoscale structures, potentially leading to artificially prolonged features. Furthermore, the MiniBLING model employed here does not account for the diverse and complex remineralization processes that drive oxygen consumption in the mesopelagic zone.
To strengthen the argument for the longevity of HBVs based on observations, it would be beneficial to incorporate additional evidence, such as analyses using Apparent Oxygen Utilization (AOU), which carries information related to water mass age. If available, supplementary water mass diagnostics using other tracers (e.g., nitrate, phosphate) would also be valuable in corroborating the persistence of low-DO waters associated with HBVs, at least as circumstantial evidence.
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Does the MIMOC dataset include dissolved oxygen? I could not find oxygen data in the source referenced by the authors (https://www.pmel.noaa.gov/mimoc/). If my understanding is correct, what dataset was used to generate Fig. 2a?
Regarding Fig. 2a and 2b, it would further strengthen the manuscript if the authors could include a comparison map of the depth at which the oxygen minimum occurs.
Line 335: Is it valid to assume that the barotropic component is zero? In fact, the flow estimated from SLA (e.g., the gray arrows in Fig. 6a) may be significantly influenced by the barotropic component. If the barotropic flow cannot be assumed to be zero, wouldn't it be appropriate to subtract the barotropic velocity (approximated by vertically averaged velocity) from the observed velocity profiles as part of the preprocessing?
Line 376: Castelao and Johns (2011) and Castelao et al. (2013) are not included in the reference list. Please double-check that all cited works are properly listed in the bibliography.
Line 385 (“The optimal eddy center allows…”): The meaning of this sentence, particularly the latter part, is unclear. Please revise for clarity.
Line 407: The method for estimating the propagation speed is not clearly described. Please revise this section to clarify how the speed was calculated.
Figure 3c,d: What does the x-axis represent? Please add labels or clarify in the caption.
Line 585: In the discussion of discrepancies between ship-based and satellite-derived observations, spatial resolution is indeed important, but temporal resolution is also critical. Note that the raw satellite data used for gridding does not have daily temporal resolution. In addition, what is the reason for omitting near-surface velocities in Fig. 6d and 6e? If such data are available, do satellite-derived velocities correspond better to near-surface velocities from ship-based observations, or to vertically averaged velocities?
Line 626: Does this refer to Equation 9? Please clarify.
Line 626 (“The solid black line represents…”): In Fig. 6f, I can only identify the line representing HBV speed. Could you clarify what this sentence is referring to?
Line 603: Since Fig. 6 only displays modes 6 and 10, it is not possible to assess the behavior across modes 4 to 10. Please revise this sentence or clarify with additional figures if necessary.
Line 692 (regarding Fig. 4a and 4b): There appears to be a stark difference in the zonal distribution of the strength of low-DO extremes (i.e., the lower end of the dots) between the observations and the model. The observations show the most pronounced low DO events offshore (around 24–21°W), whereas the model indicates such events occur closer to the coast. This inconsistency could point to a potentially significant model bias—possibly arising from the model misrepresentation of HBV origins, trajectories, or associated biogeochemical processes along the path toward 23W. Even though the mean fields (e.g., Fig. 2 and the medians in Fig. 4c) appear consistent, this does not guarantee that the model correctly reproduces the variability targeted in this study (e.g., the dot distribution in Fig. 4c, d). While observational data may be limited and subject to sampling bias—potentially explaining some of the discrepancies—this possibility should be explicitly considered. I encourage the authors to justify the model’s suitability for this analysis, for example, by performing a model–observation comparison using pseudo-observations from the model. Alternatively, as noted earlier, the conclusions should not rely solely on the model results and should incorporate more observation-based evidence.
Lines 606, 776, 947: Please define “SCV” upon first usage.
Line 825 (“Rossby numbers were below 1”): Is there a corresponding figure showing the Rossby number distribution? If so, please reference it.
Line 859: Please define “SACW” and “NACW” when first mentioned.