Articles | Volume 21, issue 6
https://doi.org/10.5194/os-21-2895-2025
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Diagnosing the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation in density space is critical in warmer climates
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- Final revised paper (published on 13 Nov 2025)
- Preprint (discussion started on 28 May 2025)
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-2326', Anonymous Referee #1, 26 Jun 2025
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-2326', Henri Drake, 25 Jul 2025
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Fernanda DI Alzira Oliveira Matos, 10 Aug 2025
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EC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-2326', Julian Mak, 25 Jul 2025
- AC3: 'Reply on EC1', Fernanda DI Alzira Oliveira Matos, 10 Aug 2025
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AR by Fernanda DI Alzira Oliveira Matos on behalf of the Authors (19 Aug 2025)
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ED: Referee Nomination & Report Request started (19 Aug 2025) by Julian Mak
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ED: Referee Nomination & Report Request started (24 Sep 2025) by Julian Mak
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ED: Publish as is (17 Oct 2025) by Julian Mak
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Summary
The AWI-CM3 climate model is used to investigate the sensitivity of the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC) to abrupt quadrupling of CO2 levels. The authors compare the changes in the overturning by means of the streamfunction evaluated against depth (z-AMOC) and against potential density (r-AMOC), and conclude that r-AMOC provides the most meaningful framework for describing changes in the circulation.
General remarks
I reviewed this manuscript for Journal of Geophysical Research earlier this year. I recommended minor corrections, and the authors have incorporated almost all of my suggestions in this latest version submitted to Ocean Science. In particular, they have included a discussion of ocean heat transport, which was a significant omission in the original paper.
The one suggestion of mine that the authors have not responded to is the one concerning the representation of convection in FESOM2.5. Section 2.1 needs to include a statement of how FESOM addresses density inversions: does it massively enhance vertical mixing, as, is done for instance, in NEMO? Or is there an explicit advective exchange of water parcels? I have been unable to find an explicit answer to this question in previous FESOM papers (e.g. Timmermann 2009, Sidorenko et al. 2014). In the context of the present paper, which distinguishes in detail between downwelling in depth space and density transformations in density space, I think such an explanation is essential.
I therefore recommend publication, once the above point is addressed and with the following minor corrections.
Technical corrections
L304. “Here, we examined…” is awkward. I suggest replacing with “We have examined…”.
L309. “Yet…” would read better if it were replaced by “Nevertheless…”.
L342. “and rampant” is unnecessary – I would suggest deleting it.