Articles | Volume 21, issue 5
https://doi.org/10.5194/os-21-2505-2025
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Amplified warming and marine heatwaves in the North Sea under a warming climate and their impacts
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ED: Publish as is (18 Aug 2025) by Anne Marie Treguier

AR by Bayoumy Mohamed on behalf of the Authors (19 Aug 2025)
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General comments
This paper investigates the long-term impact of climate warming on the occurrence of marine heatwaves in the North Sea—a topic well within the scope of Ocean Science. The manuscript is well-written and clearly structured. The authors address the main research question appropriately and present interesting results that contribute to the scientific community. Overall, I believe the study meets the journal’s standards and could be published after moderate revision. Detailed comments and suggestions for improvement are provided below.
Specific comments
P2_L50:
The authors state that “the variability of MHW in the southern North Sea has been attributed to changes in stratification…”. I believe this is a misinterpretation of Chen et al. (2022). That study does not attribute MHW variability to stratification; rather, it argues the opposite—that the presence and persistence of stratification in the southern North Sea are attributed to the occurrence of MHWs.
P2_L71:
Throughout the Introduction, there is no mention of chlorophyll-a, yet the final sentence abruptly introduces it as a focus question regarding its response to MHWs. Even earlier in the paragraph, the stated goal of the study is to quantify the role of climate change, specifically increasing SST, in MHWs. This sudden shift lacks coherence. I recommend that the authors either omit this focus (along with Section 3.5) and reserve it for a future study (which may already form a complete narrative), or revise the introduction to systematically incorporate this aspect.
P5_L155–160:
I would not describe 2012/13 as indicating a “second regime shift.” A regime shift is not instantaneous; it marks a transition that may unfold over months or years. Figures 1a and 2 clearly illustrate such a transition. The regime shift appears to begin around 2000 and conclude in 2012. Rather than defining 2012/13 as a second regime shift, this study might more accurately be described as the first to delineate the full span of regime shift—from 2000 to 2012. Clarifying this timeframe provides greater scientific value than introducing an arguably redundant second shift.
P5_L173–175:
According to the domain-averaged SSTA (the thick black line in Figure 2), 2000 seems to be the transition point between the cold and transitional periods, as it is when the averaged SSTA reaches 0°C. Moreover, Figure 1 shows that, based on the Pettitt test, 70% of the North Sea experienced the transition after 2000, while only 30% (mainly the southern North Sea) transitioned between 1996 and 1998. If 1997 is used as the transition year, the affected area would be less than 10%.
P6_L187–189:
The authors state that “SST in the North Sea experienced two significant regime shifts in the late 1990s and after 2013.” In my view, the North Sea underwent a single regime shift between 2000 and 2012, transitioning from MCS dominance to MHW dominance.
P7:
Following my previous comment, I suggest that the authors indicate the regime shift period (2000–2012) in Figure 2.
P9_L251–252:
The authors state: “The increase in internal variability of SST leads to a broadening of the PDF of temperature, making the occurrence of MHW more likely.” However, Figure 4A–B shows a decrease in variance from the pre-2013 to post-2013 period. Does this imply that MHWs became less likely after 2013? This needs clarification.
P10_L266–268:
The authors write: “The frequency of MHW occurrence is higher in all months post-2013 than pre-2013, except for February and March...” In my view, a more outstanding difference is post-2013, the mean MHW frequency is considerably higher (almost doubled) than pre-2013 from June to December. This implies that climate warming mainly affects the appearance of MHW in the second half of the year. While this is mentioned in lines 272–273, the earlier description (lines 266–271) does not clearly highlight it.
P11_L285–287:
The statement “To date, no study has evaluated the relative role of the long-term trend and internal variability on the MHW in the North Sea” is not true. Chen and Staneva (2024) have addressed this very question, using similar data (1982–2022) and methodology (Hobday et al., 2016; MATLAB toolbox by Zhao & Marin, 2019). They also identified different MHW patterns over the last 30 years (1993–2002, 2003–2012, 2013–2022). To my knowledge, their study is the first of its kind in the North Sea. The authors should revise this claim and properly credit prior research, especially work so closely aligned with theirs.
Chen, W., & Staneva, J. (2024): Characteristics and trends of marine heatwaves in the northwest European Shelf and the impacts on density stratification: In: von Schuckmann, K., Moreira, L., Grégoire, M., Marcos, M., Staneva, J., Brasseur, P., Garric, G., Lionello, P., Karstensen, J., and Neukermans, G. (eds.): 8th edition of the Copernicus Ocean State Report (OSR8). Copernicus Publications, State Planet, 4-osr8, 7, doi:10.5194/sp-4-osr8-7-2024
P14_L356:
Why were specific years selected rather than showing long-term trends? While Figure 8 provides spatial maps of annual mean MHW days, selecting individual years only highlights temporal variability within the same region (i.e., the North Sea). For instance, although 2022 and 2023 had similar total MHW days, the southern North Sea experienced different MHW durations. Presenting trends instead, like in Figure 2e–h of Chen and Staneva (2024), would better illustrate spatial variability.
P14_L365–367:
The statement that “SST variability and thus MHW in the North Sea are largely influenced by atmospheric rather than oceanic forcing, which is consistent with Tinker and Howes (2020)” is misleading. Tinker and Howes (2020) found that marine air temperature is the main driver of SST rise—not necessarily the dominant influence on MHWs.
P15_L379–381:
Why focus only on frequency and intensity? I would expect a discussion of trends in MHW duration and total days, or at least an exploration of the drivers behind MHW characteristics.
P15_L387:
What exactly is meant by “internal variability”? Do the authors refer to hydrodynamics?
P18_L440:
It's not only reduced wind mixing; stable stratification also suppresses vertical water mass exchange, thereby limiting heat transfer to deeper layers. As a result, heat accumulates in the surface layers.
P19_Section 3.5:
As previously mentioned, I do not see a clear connection between this section and the overall focus of the paper (nor is it reflected in the title). Either develop the introduction and methodology to properly integrate this topic, or consider removing it and addressing it in a future study.
P22_Conclusions:
The conclusion section is overly long and verbose. Please revise to make it more concise and focused.
Technical Corrections
P4_L125: Add a comma after the equation.
P4_L126: Change “Where” to lowercase: “where”.