Articles | Volume 21, issue 6
https://doi.org/10.5194/os-21-2873-2025
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Impact of internal tides on chlorophyll a distribution and primary production off the Amazon shelf from glider measurements and satellite observations
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- Final revised paper (published on 11 Nov 2025)
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Summary:
The authors utilize measurements from a 26-day glider deployment, complemented with satellite products, to investigate how internal tides modulate mixing, nutrient availability, and primary production in the vicinity of the shelf break offshore of the Amazon River mouth. The results suggest that internal wave-driven vertical mixing drives variability in the ocean state and vertical distribution of chlorophyll over the deployment.
Merit:
This paper utilizes glider data to explore how physical processes modulate the vertical distribution of chlorophyll. I think that this work on the interdisciplinary applications of the physics would be of interest to many readers. The approach is generally sound, although additional detail and discussion is needed in places as commented below. The presentation quality and structure is mostly clear, and any points of confusion are noted.
General comments:
Line-by-line comments and suggestions:
L26-27 – I think this sentence is unnecessary. It is already stated later that they do modulate nutrient availability/productivity.
L33 – “remarkable” compared to what? Please clarify
L36 – clarify what contributes to the other 62%
L55 – This sentence feels a bit disconnected; discuss how it influences climate variability, i.e. through air-sea interaction.
L96-97 – I think it would be helpful to add a sentence/references regarding the seasonality of internal tides and mesoscale features.
L111 – clarify that this is in optimal conditions with no currents
L116 – change “thanks to” to “from” or “using”
L117 – strange wording. Reword “enabling to estimate”
L139 – change “imagery” to “images”?
L153 – extra space after 05
L157 – “merges”
L177 – the URL could be moved to a data statement at the end
L194 – What specific hydrographic properties were used to classify the data into these periods? Was this done objectively?
Fig 1 – On a related note, there seem to be breaks between periods A&B and B&C. Are these transitional periods? Why were they not classified into any of the primary subregions?
L204 – How was the aggregating done? Is it assuming that every measurement within that depth range is treated the same? Or, was there some type of vertical averaging?
L210 – I’m curious how large of a contribution is expected from the SMS term? Is this a source of uncertainty?
L226 – How are high and low tidal forcing defined?
L233 – “integrated in DCM at the DCM” – I don’t understand what this wording means. I think you mean integrated in depth within the layer.
Fig 2 – Nice schematic that shows how Chl changes vertically due to internal tides. I think the colors are somewhat ambiguous. It is unclear whether green refers to a) the sum of CHL and SMS or b) just Chl-a from SMS.
L254 – Would a Spearman correlation analysis potentially be more appropriate, considering that I think we would not expect a linear relationship?
L261 – missing space after the period
L268 – I disagree with this… it looks to me like euphotic depth Zeu decreases in the eddy core and increases on the eddy periphery, in a similar pattern to chlorophyll as described in the later text.
L277/279 – 11th / 12th
L277-280 – I’m not convinced there was “expansion” of the eddy. That seems, from the figure, to be an artifact of the cutoff ADT used to define the edge. Please reword to say that (or clarify if I am mistaken).
L288-300 – Following my previous comment, it looks like Zeu and chlorophyll are correlated within the eddy, but that this correlation seems to break down when outside the eddy. I think an explanation of this would be helpful.
L336 – Fig 6 appears to show that salinity was always above 35.5
L333-352 – Nice summary. Much of the discussion on stratification is descriptive, however, and some of the trends mentioned in the text are not clearly apparent on the figure. For example, I do not clearly see more salinity stratification in region A than B, as is mentioned at L342. I think including quantitative information in a few places (i.e., dT/dz and dS/dz) would strengthen this section.
L365-378 – The answers to some of my earlier comments are here. I think, perhaps, this should be moved earlier. I.e., discuss the four periods, then discuss their differences?
L368 – I think better to use 3 significant figures to be consistent here and in other places for the isopycnals
L371 – “a distance was recorded” – odd wording; please rephrase
Fig 8 – Add units on the y-axis (& for Fig 13). Also, it seems strange to me that the spectra are so smooth (or, perhaps I am mistaken). Was any smoothing done to the lines on this plot? If so, I would suggest to just plot the raw spectra.
L398-408 – It seems from the earlier plots that there is strong variability in surface chlorophyll. But this is not clear from Fig 9. Please explain this apparent discrepancy.
L419 – Odd wording. Maybe say “the peak is more pronounced”?
L422 – Was there significant temporal variability in the chl-a profiles? If so, perhaps a proportional criterion for thickness might work better?
L425 - While the relationship between thickness and high/low internal tide activity is very clear, I’m less convinced about the relationships between thickness and chlorophyll within the two IT regimes. It seems from Fig 11 that the high R values are because of peak thickness varies by much more than delta CHL, rather than a large change in chlorophyll. As suggested earlier, I think calculating a Spearman ranked correlation coefficient might be more appropriate, and would tell whether high values of Chla are associated with low values of thickness.
L428-430 – I think this is probably a stronger conclusion than the correlation coefficients (and is more clear in Fig 11). Maybe move earlier in the paragraph?
L447 – I’m a bit confused on how “chlorophyll-a loss” is calculated. From Fig 12, it does not look like the decrease in Chl at the peak is as high as 64%. Please clarify.
L458 – Is there any SMS contribution to the DCM layer? I assume not based on the calculations in this paragraph.
L470-481 – nice summary of the differences between A and B.
L493 – extra space between “ability”
L518-524 –I think it would be useful to try to contextualize this more with existing literature – i.e. are there papers quantifying the impact of NIWs and fronts on chlorophyll. If not, are there any that have quantified physical turbulence parameters relating to these issues? I think having some additional background is important here, considering that the paper is based off of an implied assumption that the entirety of vertical mixing results from internal tides (which may be mostly true, but it would be helpful it this was put in context).
L575 – I’m not sure about the specific journal policy for this special issue regarding whether having data available upon request is acceptable.