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https://doi.org/10.5194/os-20-1051-2024
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The characteristics of tides and their effects on the general circulation of the Mediterranean Sea
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- Final revised paper (published on 29 Aug 2024)
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-2251', Anonymous Referee #1, 26 Nov 2023
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Bethany McDonagh, 18 Mar 2024
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-2251', Anonymous Referee #2, 08 Dec 2023
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Bethany McDonagh, 18 Mar 2024
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EC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-2251', Joanne Williams, 24 Mar 2024
- AC3: 'Reply on EC1', Bethany McDonagh, 26 Mar 2024
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The manuscript "The characteristics of tides and their effects on the general circulation of the Mediterranean Sea" by McDonagh et al. presents a study investigating the effect of tides on the Mediterranean Sea circulation. To my knowledge, this subject has not yet been extensively investigated. Apart from Sannino et al. 2014, which provided a first analysis of the tidal influence on the large-scale Mediterranean circulation, previous studies have only focused on specific areas such as the Alboran Sea (Sanchez-Garrido et al., 2013) or the Sicily Strait (Oddo et al., 2023; Gasparini et al., 2004). As such, the present manuscript proposes a valuable contribution to reinforce and deepen the current knowledge on the tidal influence on the Mediterranean Sea.
In this study, the authors diagnose the effect of tides from a pair of 5-year-long tidal and non-tidal experiments based on very similar numerical configurations. The first and second sections of the manuscript investigate the influence of tides on the Mediterranean Sea dynamics through the prism of sea level and kinetic energy spectra. These analyses focus on three specific locations: the Strait of Gibraltar, the Tyrrhenian Sea, and the Cretan Sea. They reveal that tides impact high-frequency (> 1 day⁻¹) dynamics through the propagation of the main tidal harmonics at work within the Mediterranean Basin and their interaction with various basin-scale modes. Then, the authors relate the tidally enhanced dynamics and mixing to the deepening of the mixed layer depth in the tidal simulation. The two final sections discuss the impact of tides on the thermohaline properties of the Mediterranean Sea and the transports through the Strait of Gibraltar.
Overall, the manuscript has the potential to provide valuable results on tidal contribution to Mediterranean dynamics. However, further work must be done before it can be accepted. More specifically, I think that although the two first sections of the manuscript provide valuable results, they focus on too specific areas to provide an overall picture of the tidal influence on the high-frequency Mediterranean dynamics. In addition, to assess the influence of tides on the "general circulation of the Mediterranean Sea", as stated in the the title of the study, the manuscript should investigate the influence of tides on the long-term, large-scale circulation. Regarding the impact of tidal dynamics, section 5 should more clearly distinguish the influence of local tidal mixing at the strait of Gibraltar, which impacts the Mediterranean mixed layer depth indirectly by changing the density of Atlantic water masses, and the less intense mixing induced by tidal currents throughout the Mediterranean Sea. The former is not directly related to the interaction of tides with the Mediterranean circulation, and it has already been investigated with similar model configurations (Sannino et al., 2014; Naranjo et al., 2014). Thus, I suggest not including it in this manuscript. On the other hand, the mixing induced by tidal dynamics is relevant to this study. Finally, sections 6 and 7 are, in my opinion, outside of the scope of this paper. Although interesting, the corpus of these sections has no apparent link with Mediterranean circulation and mainly emphasizes the conclusions of previous studies without additional results.
For these reasons, I am arguing for a major revision of the manuscript. Specifically, I would suggest:
(1) Mostly focus on the overall increase of the mixed layer depth rather than its local increase over deep convection areas, where the intensity of tidal mixing is unlikely strong enough to drive the deepening.
(2) Look at the seasonal cycle of the mixed layer depth and stratification, as it would be easier to separate the effect of local vertical mixing from that of the tide-induced densification of Atlantic water masses at the Strait of Gibraltar.
I do encourage authors to make the necessary effort to improve this manuscript. You can find general and detailed remarks, as well as references, in the attached PDF.