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https://doi.org/10.5194/os-21-3069-2025
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The effect of storms on the Antarctic Slope Current and the warm inflow onto the southeastern Weddell Sea continental shelf
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-1537', K. W. Nicholls, 29 May 2025
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“The effect of storms on the Antarctic Slope Current and the warm inflow onto the southeastern Weddell Sea continental shelf”
by Dundas et al.
The authors wind-derived anomalies of surface stress caused by storm events over the southern Weddell Sea, upstream of the Filchner continental shelf. They then investigate the impact of those periods of high surface-stress on the Antarctic Slope Current (ASC) near the Filchner sill, and on the flow both of warmer waters onto the continental shelf, and the southward flow of warm waters already on the shelf toward Filchner Ice Front.
This work is a continuation of observational and idealized numerical studies by many of the same authors. Here the mooring time series has been significantly extended. Seven moorings, with time series up to four years in length have been used. Obtaining those moorings has been a colossal effort, and they represent a very impressive resource.
As a continuation, the study is in some ways incremental, providing confirmation of key findings from the previous work, but also raising some interesting questions. I would like to see it published in this journal, after some relatively minor revisions.
Overall, the English is good, in that it is entirely understandable. However, the text could be substantially tightened up, perhaps by a co-author? I’ve submitted a marked-up PDF with many comments and an incomplete list of minor textual suggestions, but very often sentences could be redrafted more concisely. That is perhaps an editorial decision. Some of the comments are more substantive but most are requests for clarifications that can be very easily dealt with.
A couple of more significant questions.
This reviewer was a bit confused about what the authors were trying to say in this section, where they describe a shift in July 2019 in the response to storms events: the response on the shelf to storms went from being inconsistent to consistent, while the reverse was the case for the response at the sill. At the same time the flow direction on the shelf migrated from being primarily north-eastward to primarily eastward.
In line 275 they mention the importance of changes in the upstream wind forcing as a possible reason behind the shift as discussed in an earlier study, but later in the paragraph note that the mean surface stress over the Upstream box doesn’t seem to change during the shift. In the next paragraph (line 282) there is a comment about the correlation between wind direction and the current direction at M_CS2; the correlation shifts from negative to positive. Where is this wind? Is it over the Upstream box? If so, I don’t see how the mean direction of the stress isn’t changing, but the correlation between wind direction and current at M_SC2 is switching sign: the current direction is only changing by 45 degrees.
The paragraph starting at line 297 then seems initially to repeat the statements about the Daae et al paper’s findings mentioned in the para starting in Line 275.
I think this section needs to be tightened up considerably. Clearly, the authors have an interesting finding, and haven’t yet got an explanation that satisfies them. I feel that it could be explained very much more concisely and clearly.
I think the authors have generated a time series of the strength of the westward component of surface stress and used an algorithm to identify storm events. They then calculate the strength in the response of the mooring time series around the time of each storm. To be reassured of the robustness of the identification of the response, would it be helpful to carry out a randomized test: create a set of random times of pseudo-storm events, and carry out the same calculation of the strength of the “response” as measured by the mooring time series. Carry out the same test for a many different sets of pseudo-storm events. Highly variable currents as measured by the moorings will often have peaks that will occasionally correlate with peaks in storm forcing, regardless of whether they are being caused by the storm events. A Monte Carlo-like approach such as this will make clear whether the relationship between ocean response and storm forcing is robust. If this analysis is not possible for some reason, perhaps sample time series from the current data would help give confidence in the relationship.