Articles | Volume 19, issue 6
https://doi.org/10.5194/os-19-1809-2023
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the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 License.Observations of strong turbulence and mixing impacting water exchange between two basins in the Baltic Sea
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-920', Anonymous Referee #1, 03 Aug 2023
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Julia Muchowski, 03 Oct 2023
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2023-920', Anonymous Referee #2, 26 Aug 2023
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AR by Julia Muchowski on behalf of the Authors (03 Oct 2023)
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ED: Publish as is (20 Oct 2023) by Mehmet Ilicak

AR by Julia Muchowski on behalf of the Authors (03 Nov 2023)
The authors use shipboard acoustic and microstructure turbulence observations to study a dense overflow in the Baltic Sea. Results show how topographic lee waves propagate upwards into the halocline where they break and cause high levels of turbulent mixing.
This is a very nice paper and I don't have any major comments. There are a few minor points that would be good to be addressed before the paper is published. I trust that the authors will include my comments where they feel that changes are necessary and do not need to review a revised version before publication.
Minor comments:
14-15: This sentence reads maybe a bit generic?
15: overflow -> overflows
19: Possibly split sentence where you start talking about when data were collected.
20: Year incomplete.
20: I had the impression that the fast timescale of the flow reversals was not previously known. If so it would be worthwhile to highlight the timescales here.
23: You only speculate about submesoscale processes in this paper, this shouldn't be stated here as a result.
23: leading -> led
24: Mixing -> Turbulent mixing? What specific quantity are you referring to here?
29: The last sentence of the abstract reads a it generic, consider removing.
33: You don't talk about your results (breaking lee waves cause turbulent mixing in the vicinity of the sill here). It remains a bit unclear why you refer to numerical models if you don't mention parameterizations. As stated above, I would move this into the discussion section and focus on the results of your study in this summary.
43: Do you have a reference for the Bothnian Sea being well oxygenated?
54: lead -> led
55: lead -> led
62: "despite the fact that" or "despite anthropogenic, land-based sources having declined significantly"
64: over the last decades
68-70: Consider moving this sentence to the end of the next paragraph or removing it as turbulent mixing and associated water mass transformation have not been discussed at this point.
77: remove comma after Bothnian Sea
77: parentheses missing around 2007
86: Consider removing "Here," or replacing it with "In this paper,".
87: velocities -> velocity
87: You could be more precise and replace "mixing parameters" with "microstructure shear and temperature".
87: Remove one "and"
95: Panel d is too small.
97: I suggest adding a reference for the red stars and removing the reference for selecting the area of your overview map.
196: effect of mixing -> effect of turbulent mixing
197: mixing data -> turbulence observations
198 mixing -> turbulent mixing
211: Change to published version.
226: Possibly mention here that the "internal shear sensor" (I am still a bit puzzled by the name) is used to determine noise due to instrument vibration?
247: You mention a quality control algorithm but the data in Figs. 2a & 2b appear to show some noise. Maybe the quality control was only applied to the moored ADCP data?
266: towards the north?
270: Maybe it would be better to phrase this as "data collected along the transect are expected to show spatial and temporal variations" since you don't resolve this with one transect?
271: This sentence seems to terminate early? I can't quite make sense of it.
277: How do you determine that some of the water is blocked by the sill? Looking at your (impressive!) acoustic observations in Fig. 4, I get the impression that most of the deep water is being drawn up to the sill height?
284: What is your definition of deep water here? Denser than a specific isopycnal? Some depth level?
308: Black line -> The black line
324: Do you mean tilting density interfaces indicate that deep water is lifted up to the sill height? "due to" implies a physical process. Also, do eroding density interfaces imply that there is near-bottom turbulent mixing before the water reaches the sill crest? Could this explain the loss of oxygen and temperature minima you show in Fig. 2 without any blocking necessary?
356: 3degC or 3K
358: 6degC or 6K
380: The map inset is too small.
365: Reiterating my points above, how do you determine that this is due to blocking and not mixing and entrainment?
391: I could not figure out how to retrieve the videos. In general I would like to suggest to treat the videos as what they are - supplementary material - and to include a figure that summarizes what you show in the video. Lines 399 to 407 could refer to one figure with several panels showing the acoustic observations at the times discussed in the text?
423: shown below -> discussed below
449: Individual profiles in this figure are shown with such faint lines that are impossible to read. Consider increasing their thickness or not showing them at all.
464: You are still in section 4.2 and the jump into the discussion with this paragraph seems rather abrupt here. Why not reserve section 4 for your results and move the discussion into the next section?
481: It would be good to state here why higher oxygen near the sill is a consequence of mixing - I am guessing it's because oxygen-rich waters from the north are entrained?
495: This sentence reads very generic, consider removing or being a bit more specific. This and the following paragraph may benefit from being moved into a discussion section.
505: change etc to something more specific, or at least "and other tracers".
510: make -> makes
510: "established in-situ methods for observing dissipation rates" - you probably mean microstructure turbulence observations? If so good to spell this out.
511: "prone to fail" seems a bit harsh - you show with this paper that there is a lot to be learned even when undersampling in space and time.
515: Maybe it's just me but 10^{-0} just looks a bit odd...
516: in a reversing
522: Your reference profiles south of the sill in Fig. 8d show that there are regions with relatively small turbulent mixing! Doesn't this contradict your statement of continuous modification?
525: Wake eddies have not been discussed prior to this. It may be helpful to summarize your GRL paper in one or two sentences when you refer to it for the first time.
533: Consider starting a new paragraph at "The observed mixing".