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https://doi.org/10.5194/os-20-1657-2024
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Assessing the impact of future altimeter constellations in the Met Office global ocean forecasting system
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AR by Robert King on behalf of the Authors (25 Oct 2024)
Review of “Assessing the impact of future altimeter constellations in the Met Office global ocean forecasting system” by R.R. King et al.
General Comments:
This study presents a series of Observing System Simulation Experiments performed to assess the relative benefits of two proposed satellite altimetry approaches. The first involves 12 nadir altimeters (i.e. similar to conventional along-track satellite altimetry; NADIR), whereas the second approach would use two wide-swath satellite altimeters (2WISA) similar to the current SWOT mission launched at the end of 2022.
The manuscript is clearly written and provides a well-justified methodology. Results are assessed using both standard approaches together with more sophisticated time and spatial scale dependent scores. A state of the art high-resolution ocean forecasting system is used for the study thereby providing an excellent assessment of the potential impacts of the two proposed altimeter constellations.
There are several issues I feel that the authors should address prior to publication:
Specific Comments:
L20: Technically the satellites measure SSH. SLA is obtained by removing a mean SSH surface. As SSH is referred to later in the paper, it would be better to use consistent language throughout.
L25: The following sentence uses the term “nadir”. Include it here to make it clear what this means.
L39: It would be better to define WiSA when SWOT is first mentioned (or not at all). It is not clear to me the benefit of using an acronym for Wide-swath altimetry and not for nadir altimetry when the two alternative observing system approaches being considered are nearly the same length. Moreover, the use of WiSA is used inconsistently throughout the paper, with “wide-swath altimetry” used at times and WiSA other times. It is also somewhat confusing to have an acronym for WiSA and the name of one the experiments 2WISA. I would propose to remove the WiSA acronym and just say “wide-swath altimetry” and “nadir altimetry” to be clear.
L101: It would be good to note that the sea ice model is also different.
L112: A brief description of how the observation errors are generated should be added along with details concerning the amplitude of the errors and whether spatially-correlated errors are introduced. It would be helpful to note here the different types of error (instrumental, representativeness) and what is being estimated here.
L124: It would be helpful to elaborate on what you mean by “realistic errors”. For the baseline nadir altimeters what amplitude is applied for the error?
L134: Final L3 altimetry products typically used for assimilation are corrected for many of the raw satellite errors (tides, DAC, longwave, wet tropospheric). How do you deal with this?
L134: You mention here that only uncorrelated errors are Karin noise and residual path delay error. However, later on line 344, it is noted that Karin and wet tropospheric errors are used. Also, it would be helpful to provide the amplitude of the perturbations applied to the synthetic observations to simulate errors.
L135: Superobbing to 10km. But nadir is at 6km? Why not make it the same? This choice reduces the along-track resolution of the wide-swath data and could affect the extent to which small scales are constrained.
L138: Is nadir data affected by SWH?
L147: Why mention NEMO version number and not CICE version number? Please add version number for the latter.
L156: Here you mention SSH observations. It would be good to be consistent with the introduction and stick to either SLA or SSH (unless there is a reason to differentiate).
L158: “…all assimilated together, and …”. Remove comma. The rest of the sentence isn’t very clear. It would be good to reword.
L164: It would be helpful to state the length scales used as they have a direct impact on how the altimetric information will affect the model solution.
L175: What high-frequency errors are being referred to here? DAC? A bias should have a time mean, but it is mentioned that high-frequency signals are removed from observations by the simulator. Which is it? Additionally, problems with this bias correction term are used to explain the poor performance of 2WISA experiment in the Northeast Pacific Ocean. As such, it would be appropriate to provide additional detail. Indeed, it would be good to add a comment here regarding the role of this correction in affecting the results later on.
L186: Why not run for a full year? Evaluating over only Jan. to July will create a hemispheric bias with respect to the sea ice cover (see comments regarding Fig. 3).
L190: Why does the 2WISA experiment not include Sentinel 3a/b? It would allow us to see the impact of adding the 2 wide swath altimeters directly. As it stands, a comparison of 2WISA and Control would include the impact of the 2 wide-swath altimeters, but also the impact of removing 2 nadir altimeters (Sentinel 3a/b). It seems the removal of these two altimeters has an important impact on the results. As such, an additional simulation with only 1 altimeter (Sentinel6) would provide a means to separate the effects (or rather, with 2 wide-swath altimeters and sentinel3a/b).
L205: It is not clear to me why the authors are comparing min/max values using innovations from the operational system to min/max values using the full grid in the OSSE. Why not assess min/max values from the OSSE innovations? This way the sampling would be the same.
L209: It is standard practice to produce an OSE prior to the OSSE to verify the OSSE framework provides an equivalent response (e.g. when withholding altimetry data). Has an OSE been performed? For example, it would be useful to see the impact of withholding sentinel 3a/b in an OSE and in the OSSE (see comment regarding line 190). This may help to explain some of the areas of degradation seen in the 2WISA experiment.
L220: It would be helpful to know how the total number of observations differs between NADIR and 2WISA experiments. Fig. 1 gives a qualitative sense to this, but total number of observations would give an idea how well the system is able to benefit from the information. Also, the choice to apply a “superobbing” of the data to a 10km grid will affect this number.
L220 (Fig. 2): It would be helpful to provide statistics for other regions, especially the Gulf Stream region since this is the focus of Fig. 4. The global statistics will be strongly affected by the strong signal found under ice (see comment below) thereby biasing the overall (ice-free) results. The global results are also affected the problem in the northeast Pacific.
L223: (Fig. 3): Why only show monthly mean for July? Given that the statistics are quite stationary (apart from initial few analyses), using fields for the full simulation would provide more robust statistics.
L225: Why is there an impact under the sea ice? Were synthetic ssh data used even where there is sea ice? Since this is not typically done in the operational systems it should be rejected in the OSSE as well. In July there should be considerable sea ice cover in the southern ocean. As a result, a change in the SSH data sets assimilated shouldn’t have an impact under the ice. If the study has used data under the sea ice this needs to be mentioned and the impact of this choice discussed in detail as it appears to have a first order impact on the study results.
L226: The degradation in the northeast Pacific is quite unusual. The cause for this feature should be mentioned here as it is not associated with the wide-swath data themselves but rather a suggested problem in the SLA bias correction. Without this explanation, it suggests there is a problem in the experimental setup and undermines the reliability of the findings.
L235: It would be helpful to have a timeseries of RMS error over a small region to illustrate the point being made here about the sporadic sampling in time. We should see smaller errors following assimilation which grow between overpasses. It would also help to demonstrate the WISA data are being assimilated correctly and that it is indeed the time sampling the issue.
L238: “The assimilation of 12 nadir altimeters…”. In fact, the NADIR experiment assimilates 13 nadir altimeters doesn’t it? (i.e. 12 + Sentinel6). It is mentioned the Control has three (2+Sentinel6), so a consistent nomenclature should be used.
L244 (Fig. 5): Why do both experiments show a strong (20%) degradation in temperature below 1000m in the Gulf Stream region?
L258: Surface currents will be strongly affected by the winds applied. Would it not be more interesting to assess just below the surface (e.g. 15m depth) where a large impact on geostrophic currents should be visible? Use of 15m depth would also allow greater potential transferability of results to actual comparisons with drogued drifters.
L276 (Fig. 8): A significant difference between the experiments is in the representation of a large feature in the top right of the panels (these panels should have lat/lon labels). If we consider the panels a 7x7 grid, the feature would be in X=2:3, Y=5. The NADIR run captures well this large feature whereas the other runs look more diffuse (possibly due to higher variability?). This feature appears to be part of the Gulf Stream mean flow. This suggests that its representation may be part of an improvement in bias, rather than having to do with finer resolution.
L283. Should read “It is also clear …”
L291: Over what region are the PSD scores calculated? Could you define ‘Gulf Stream region’ more precisely as this is used loosely throughout the paper. Does this region include land (e.g. the ‘Gulf Stream region’ shown in Fig. 4 or the one used in Fig. 8). If not and a smaller domain with only ocean points is chosen, how are PSD scores near 10deg obtained as they would have very few cycles.
L303: Ballarotta et al. (2019) aim to assess the effective spatial resolution of their procedure to re-grid altimetry observations. The use of this technique here has a somewhat different connotation. The scale at which the PSD of the error is larger than ½ of PSD of the observations would be more appropriately referred to as the limit of constrained scales. It is correct to note that Ballarotta et al. refer to this as “effective resolution”, but it should not be interpreted as so here. For example, there are areas for which the data assimilation system is having trouble assimilating the altimetry observations resulting in larger errors (e.g. in the northeast Pacific Ocean and in the Arctic around 180deg). In the latter, Fig. 10 suggests an “effective resolution” of over 500km! It would be more accurate to refer to this as the limit of constrained scales. In this case, it would highlight that the assimilation system isn’t constraining the SSH to any measurably degree in this region of the Arctic.
L312: ‘…at each point’. If there are a series of 10x10deg boxes every 1deg, then the corresponding PSDs and ratios are considered to correspond to the center of the 10x10deg box. Is this what ‘at each point’ refers to? The center of the 10x10deg box? Perhaps reword to make this more clear.
L312: ‘…where the ratio described above was 0.5’. Reword to something like this ‘…where the ratio described above is equal to 0.5’, or ‘crossed the threshold of 0.5’.
L313: The anomaly in the northeast Pacific is glaringly obvious in Fig. 10, yet there is no comment. This unexplained issue puts in question the validity of the rest of the study.
L351: For these three experiments is the only change the introduction of different perturbations to the synthetic data? Is any change made to the data assimilation system to account for correlated errors? Is the observation error variance changed in the assimilation system? Also, it would be helpful to provide details regarding the amplitude of the correlated errors and how they were determined. Moreover, while its noted that efforts are underway to develop corrections to these correlated errors its not clear the extent to which some correction is used here. Without any correction, the errors would be extremely high (e.g. greater than 50 cm). While the correlated errors may not be completely removed, a reasonable approximation would be to use assume some correction of the correlated errors. So what is used here and what is this estimate based on?
L400 “…showed an overall…”. Typo.
L404: “Although we were unable to find why this affected only the 2WISA experiment and not the NADIR, we found that the effect was localised to the region of degration in the northern Pacific and did not affect the impact of assimilation in other regions, nor the overall order of the impact or our conclusions”. I find this issue somewhat troubling. If the authors were unable to identify the cause of the problem, how can they be sure it is localized in the north Pacific? As noted above, leaving it to the conclusions to offer an explanation for this issue undermines the reliability of the results. It would be better to note earlier in the text that this issue is present in the results and efforts have been made to provide an assessment of the impact of the satellite constellations that are not affected by this issue.
L414: The main difference is not necessarily the assimilation window, but rather the observations used in the analysis. The system used in Benkiran et al. (2024) produces daily analyses using observations from days in the past and the future, similar to a Kalman smoother approach. Could observations from days before and following the analysis be included in the FOAM system in a similar manner? It would be helpful to clarify the text on this point.
L420: The issue of correlated errors is an important one, but various aspects of how it is approached here require further clarification. The precise values of errors applied are not described nor is how the assimilation system is modified in consequence.
L448: Craig Donlon appears as a co-author, but his contribution is not indicated.